Why buy a festool drill
So the new cordless drill would be for driving screws which I think cordlesses do way better than cordeds and maybe drilling a couple of holes in the wall to hang something when I don't feel like dragging out the extension cord.
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PaulMarcel Posts: If you are primarily going to be driving screws, the CXS will be fantastic. Enough power for some hard driving but a nice small footprint and ergonomics for a lot of driving. The right-angle chuck and minimal clearance needs with the Centrotec chuck or bare let you get in a lot of tight places. I recently used the CXS to reach into a wall cavity about 18" blind to drive screws.
I used the right-angle chuck for some and straight for the others. I can't think of another drill that would have done that so easily.
Last year for a cabinet install, I needed the right-angle chuck to screw in a desk attachment of sorts to an existing cabinet. I've lent mine out to friends and trusted neighbors. There are many more on the block now CXS in this case. Visit my blog for Festool adventures IG: PaulMarcel - basically stories, mix of circus, woodworking, maybe gym stuffs Hmm, had a look at the CXS.
Watched your video on it. It looks like a nice drill, but the keyless chuck capacity is just too low for me.
Which leaves the T-number and C-number drills. Honestly, given their prices, I'm not really sure what a drill could do that's enough better than another drill to justify that price. There's no dust collection, which I've recently learned I appreciate and I'll pay money for. They don't integrate with the rest of the Festool system I have. Not sure I see the rationale. I'm sure the larger Festool drills are great, but I too fail to justify the cost for my own situation.
I find the CXS much more neat and easier to handle in everyday situations but I still use my Maktias for the real heavy duty tasks. Kev Posts: The Festool drills shine when you try them side by side over a period of time. Weight, balance, chucks, Centrotec, etc all just work. Then there's warranty, support, quality, Systainer I appreciate the Festool drill experience - but I knew I would after just playing with them for a few minutes.
Maybe Festool drills aren't for everyone - they're a premium price tool for sure. For me, as a non-professional, the festool drills are probably the least attractive offering, at least apart from the CXS, which I find a lot better than all other 10V drills I have tried. I'm sure that if you are a professional, working on job sites, you would appreciate the warranty, insurance and the systainer.
While those are nice for me to have, they are non-essential as I always keep my tools at home anyway. I pay for Festools when I consider the actual tool far superior to others, with regards to my needs. I do agree with Kev that the accessories for the drills, such as the excentric chuck, the angle tool etc are nice, but I get everything except the excentric chuck on my CXS.
Things might have been different if I had not owned the Maktias when I started sipping the cool-aid. But on the other hand, I really like those drills, so I'm pretty sure I'll buy a new set whenever my current ones wear out in about 10 years or so..
I think Kev does make one very important point though: Feel out the different drills. If you think the Festools feels a lot better than any others, go for it. The fit of the handle in your hands will be important for how you handle the drill and ultimately the performance of it as well as the quality of the resulting work.
Quote from: williaty on March 13, , AM. Latest Festool purchase?? The CXS Next Festool purchase? The Domino Quote from: agehall on March 13, , AM. Quote from: Kev on March 13, , AM.
Mostly what Kev indicated but having owned and used Makitas and Milwaukees before getting my C15 I can tell you the maind difference for me is the low speed control when driving screws and the low speed torque as well.
My last drill was a Panasonic. Great drill, incredible torque and battery life. I have switch to festool T3 because of the attachments. I have been slowly remodeling my house and have been working in very tight spaces from 6" duct work in 7. I have been using the right angle chuck and eccentric chuck on every one of those projects, and now with the centrotec installer kit I have a very fine tool.
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And on the job site, a whole kitchen full of cases, driving 3" cabinet screws with no pilot holes. Two maybe three small batteries. And so what, I've got six charged batteries with me. The right angle attachment is no big deal. Or you can get the JobPlus base and get a right angle jacobs chuck and a right angle ball detent impact attachment.
But the eccentric attachment. Now that is a big deal, a very big deal. Outside of Festool that little guy is unavailable on planet Earth. Black and Decker and I think Skil have little things but they are a joke. So there's that. And the other thing for me, which is not to be discounted, is that it is nice to be seen using a drill which is better than the one the customer has in his garage.
The cool factor. And nobody can deny that Festool drills are very cool indeed. I pull out my Harbor Freight hammer drill and that's not a problem because homeowners rarely have large hammer drills of any kind. And so what, it's a tool that is rarely used. That's fundamental. The CXS is a very cool little drill. If the eccentric chuck was offered I would have bought one within 6 weeks of it's introduction. But without the eccentric chuck?
I just don't know. It's child's play for Festool to design an eccentric for the CXS so why not? Fear that it might bite into T and C sales too heavily? It would be hard to convince me that's not the case. There is one thing to consider. What will the mainline Bosch Core brushless drill driver look like? I've keep an eye out for that. So far, nothing. Will it be designed to go head to head with the T18? Feature laden with a changeable chuck? Metabo has that feature - it's not Fastfix though Or will it be something designed to look good on the shelf at a big box store?
The Core Brushless Impactor has an interesting chuck. No adapter needed. Very interesting. Does this mean that the companion drill driver will have a wiz bang chuck? A Bosch version of Fastfix?
Or am I the only one who cares? But will anything be able to trump drilling pocket holes this morning and weed eating around the fence this afternoon with tools that use the same battery?
The one thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history. There is no single answer for everyone. With four acres of 'stuff' a battery operated hedge clipper or line trimmer doesn't work for me, and I kind of like my drill to be smart enough to protect itself and it's battery. I have a NiCad based C12 and was wondering about its longevity considering the new batteries would not work on my drill.
I take the batteries to Batteries Plus and I have a good five years more on a seven year old system, at least, and who is to say I won't be able to rebuild again. Right now, my C12 is looking quite reasonably priced. Sparktrician Posts: Since buying a C12 several years ago, my old Bosch has seen next to zero use, and the older DeWalt has seen NO use whatsoever. The C12 has been through a number of cabinet installations where the eccentric head and right-angle head have been the right tool at the right time.
I'll have to admit, though that installing drawer glides in a face frame cabinet with the C12 got old after a few hours due to the need to use it horizontally. Then along comes the CXS with the more compact size and much lighter weight. What a delight to use! The C12 is still my go-to for the heavier applications, but the CXS shines in cabinet work.
I expect that it will earn its keep on an upcoming deck repair job. The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass.
I would say the chucks is the second biggest reason IMO, but a close second.. Being able to pop off one chuck for another is fantastic. But for me it's the precision of the drill. At low speeds or a light touch of the trigger the Festool drills can be gentle as a set of hands. Centroctec is also great but if you decide to go that route you will spend alot on bits and inevitably have to use the jacobs from time to time for some tasks.
Other than that they have some nice features that I am not sure are worth chasing, like electronics inside to prevent blowing the motor, brushless, lighted battery indicator. They are built well, and perform nice. I have a c15, I like it alot.
It's not anymore gutsy than some other drills I have owned or used. Overall though, most people will vote for the chucks. The right angle and ability to change quickly are nice. The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's to late to stop reading it. Kev Posts: There's a lot of decent drills out there. I have several Hitachi and Bosch drills, but they've sat mostly idle since I acquired several Festool and Protool drills.
Festool is a superior offering, but if you don't need it or want it I have a C15 and like others, I rarely use anything else.
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